tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729465143554744766.post622562404295252029..comments2023-08-17T06:18:52.958-07:00Comments on Bilbo's Blog: Neo-Darwinist Makes Major Concession that Behe is RightBilbohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06231440026059820600noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729465143554744766.post-56643649940696024272012-11-04T06:02:30.749-08:002012-11-04T06:02:30.749-08:00Hi Adam,
For the moment, let's not worry abo...Hi Adam, <br /><br />For the moment, let's not worry about whether there is any evidence for ID The only question we are considering is whether neo-Darwinism is a well-proven scientific theory. (If it turns out that it isn't, this doesn't mean that ID is necessarily the only choice left. There are a growing number of atheists -- such as Thomas Nagel -- who doubt neo-Darwinism, but aren't about to give up atheism. They suggest that we look for other natural processes to explain how evolution occurred.)<br /><br />So, if scientists are willing to admit that there is indeed an "edge" or limit to what neo-Darwinian processes can accomplish -- only so many mutations that have no selective advantage can be allowed in explaining how a given feature evolved -- then this places a burden of proof on the theory that it might not be able to meet. And to just assume that somehow neo-Darwinian processes did accomplish all of evolution is fine for a hypothesis, but not for what is supposed to be a well-proven theory. Bilbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06231440026059820600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729465143554744766.post-81326303732508438682012-11-03T21:54:43.273-07:002012-11-03T21:54:43.273-07:00I don't really see any problem here. As I poin...I don't really see any problem here. As I pointed out in my recent post, there has never been any documented increase (500 bits) of specified information in any single mutation that would indicate ID or IC. More on this can be read about here:<br /><br />http://richardcarrier.blogspot.com/2009/05/statistics-biogenesis_01.htmlAdam Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01407725762829317959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729465143554744766.post-2647340006118611392012-11-03T19:31:09.485-07:002012-11-03T19:31:09.485-07:00Hi HornSpiel,
We have plenty of examples where mu...Hi HornSpiel,<br /><br />We have plenty of examples where multiple mutations are induced by intelligent agents through biotechnology. Would those count? Bilbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06231440026059820600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-729465143554744766.post-34056899331631683922012-11-03T19:27:53.189-07:002012-11-03T19:27:53.189-07:00Bilbo, As I commented on the Biologos site: The bu...Bilbo, As I commented on the Biologos site: The burden of proof is on the challengers. Just one solid example of evolution proceeding in a non-step-wise fashion is all that's necessary.HornSpielnoreply@blogger.com